Tim Macy, Vice Chairman of Gun Owners of America will be our guest speaker at our next Idaho Carry dinner, Thursday, September 25th at 6:30 pm at the Meridian Fuddruckers at 3421 N Eagle Rd. Bring your friends and family, membership is not required to attend.

One of the many reasons to Carry:                                                                       On October 16, 1991, 35-year-old George Pierre Hennard, an unemployed merchant seaman who was described to others as angry and withdrawn, with a dislike of women, drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby’s cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled “This is what Bell County has done to me!”, then opened fire on its patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89.  He stalked, shot, and killed 23 people while wounding another 20 before committing suicide by shooting himself. About 80 people were in the restaurant at the time. During the shooting, Hennard approached Dr. Suzanna Hupp and her parents. She had a handgun in her vehicle outside. Her father charged at him in an attempt to subdue him but was gunned down; a short time later, her mother was shot and killed.

Lesson learned!  The public needs OCers to be prepared at all times.

Supreme Court Case Law on Unlawful Stops and Seizures 

  • In Delaware v Prouse, an officer cannot detain someone without reasonable suspicion of a crime.
  • In Hibel v Nevada and Brown v Texas, both require reasonable suspicion of a crime before demanding an ID.
  • In US v DeBerry (from the 7th Circuit), the presence of a firearm, where legal to possess, cannot by itself be reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
  • In Terry v Ohio, three criteria must be met in order to disarm an individual:

1.     The officer must have a suspicion that the individual is armed;

2.     The officer must have a suspicion that the individual is dangerous; and

The officer must have a reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed or is about to commit a crime.